No provision for indirect firing? It was produced, in several modifications, on the basis of the Pz. The purpose of this addition was so that the Wehrmacht would have an effective combat support unit that would work well against infantry. Featuring specially commissioned artwork and an array of archive photographs, this is the absorbing story of the parts played by Soviet and Finnish armour in the epic battles in Finland during June and July … This made the StuG III battalion the most modern and powerful element of the Finnish armoured division, and it saw very extensive combat in the June-July summer battles. by Alkie » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:27 pm, Post I haven't played the game yet, but I've played around with list building quite a bit, so take what I say as you want. A 12-cylinder Maybach HL 120 TRM engine generating 300 hp drove the StuG III. In December of 1943, Stug IV was introduced, it was essentially a slightly modified Stug III superstructure (such as extended driver's compartment) mounted on Panzer IV chassis. 1 Description 2 Variants 3 History 4 References It had a Maybach HL 120 engine that was capable of propelling it at speeds of up to 40 km/h. 3,614 8. 5. This created the lowest possible profile in order to reduce the vehicle's height, making the StuG more difficult to hit and easier to protect in hull defilade. Up-armored StuG III Ausf.G from an unidentified unit at the third battle of Kharkov, February 1943. The first production units, the Sturmgeschütz III Ausf A, arrived in 1940 mounted with the short barreled 75 mm StuK 37L/24 gun and increased frontal hull armor (from 30 mm to 50 mm). From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). There was a big conference and the Artillery Arm saw him off. It was operated by 4 men crew. yes, quite right but the hellcat has poor armour so its a given anyway. of I Abteilung) all had them. It's armor is worse, but it's cannon is almost the same. It was developed by a … Daimler-Benz AG was given the order to develop and produce such a weapon on June 15, 1936. Post Feb 03, 2018 #3 2018-02-03T15:46. StuGs did survive on the Eastern front. In February 1943, at the suggestion of the Ministry of Armament, the Krupp company began trials of a new vehicle with the superstructure of the updated StuG III and the new suspension of the Pz.Kpfw. yes, quite right but the hellcat has poor armour so its a given anyway. 1 Overview 2 In Flames of War 2.1 Unit organization 2.2 Model kits 3 Model assembly 4 Painting 5 Combat efficiency 6 Image gallery The StuG III G assault gun was by far the most widely produced and used in the StuG series. As a result, production was significantly reduced. A Stu IV, the Krupp company focused their attention on the … 1 Overview 2 Weapons 2.1 75mm StuK 40 L/48 2.2 7.92 mm Maschinengewehr 42 3 Veterancy 4 Tactics 5 Weaknesses 6 Variants 7 Quotes 8 Gallery The Stug IV, an abbreviation of Sturmgeschütz IV, is an assault gun, a type of self-propelled artillery. The more common of the two, the StuG III, was built on the chassis of the proven Panzer III. A Finnish StuG (posing as a German one) appears in the movie The Eagle Has Landed, and ex-Finnish StuGs have since turned up in British war museums. It was at that time that Stug IV was either put into production or production was accelerated as a stopgap measure to supply assault guns to the various fronts. The Stug IV or StuG IV is an Axis heavy vehicle unit that is featured in Company of Heroes. against easy 8s i tend to destroy them in two to three hits in the stug, with 3-4 for the panzer IV with apcr. In 1942, a variant of the StuG Ausf. This basically ended any realistic opportunity of freeing the 6th Army. They created five prototypes, based on the chassis of the Panzer III, which were not useful for combat operations but did prove valuable for training.[3]. Alkie, I've seen those 'posters' you mention and there are a couple here,too.Tank producton was still high considering. G is a German tier 5 tank destroyer. This vehicle first saw combat in France in 1940. Yet roads,railways,trucks, parts factories, petrol stations were damaged/destroyed. Post by Redbaron1908 » 23 Jul 2003, 18:05 I'm confused. G was mounted on a Panzer IV chassis 7. https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/sturmgeschutz-iv.php Based on these experiences, the report made by the 11th Panzer division on January 22, 1943 regarding the Panzer III was: ↳   Operational Map Project & Archival Research, ↳   Unit Histories, Feldpost Numbers & Orders of Battle, ↳   Commanders, Personalities & Award Holders, ↳   Foreign Volunteers, Collaboration and Axis Allies, ↳   General WWII German Military Discussion. And on top of that, you can build 2 StuG for 1 Panther at almost the same cost. It was operated by 4 men crew. The first vehicles were produced by December 1943. Aside from the chassis upon which either vehicle was based, is there any major substantive difference between the Stug III and Stug IV assault guns? It was based upon the StuG … On December 17, 1942, the primary battle group in the relief effort lost 90 of their 120 available panzers (although some were repaired and fought again). The Stug 3 and Stug 4 were probably the most cost effective German armoured fighting vehicles of WW2. Stug IV (Sd.Kfz.167) was armed with 75mm StuK 40 L/48 gun mounted in cast "saukopf" mantlet. I had thought the primary reason for the StuG was its simpler to build[no turret] and had a lower profile[smaller target to hit]. From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). G (or just StuH 42 Ausf. The Imperial War Museum's Duxford site also has an ex-Finland StuG but its markings are more ambiguous. The StuG III's 75 mm KwK 40 L/48 gun could penetrate the M4A1's front armor at 1000 meters or more (except the gun mantlet). The StuG III became Nazi Germany's most produced armored fighting vehicle during World War II, with some 10,000 examples manufactured. IV H and J. Dave AAA. The StuG III Ausf.B looks and plays a lot like its tier 5 older brother, the StuG III Ausf.G. The superstructure of the StuG III Ausf. By the middle of the Second World War it had developed into a potent anti-tank weapon, and the StuG III Ausf.G was produced in larger numbers than any single version of any other Ger… F/8 and Ausf. The chassis, for starters. The total weight of the StuH was aroun… 1 Overview 2 Weapons 2.1 75mm StuK 40 L/48 2.2 7.92 mm Maschinengewehr 42 3 Veterancy 4 Tactics 5 Weaknesses 6 Variants 7 Quotes 8 Gallery The Stug IV, an abbreviation of Sturmgeschütz IV, is an assault gun, a type of self-propelled artillery. While the They had AT capability out to 800m but the primary purpose was to neutralize strongpoints. Not much. 4 years ago. When it first appeared the Sturmgeschütz, or as it is more commonly known the StuG III, was a unique weapon – a powerful artillery gun mounted on a fully armoured, tracked, low slung chassis based on the Panzer III medium tank, and designed to provide close support for the German infantry. Its maximum speed was 25 mph, and the power reserve was about 96 miles. From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). However, the lack of a traverse movement in the gun meant the entire vehicle had to be turned left or right to acquire targets, which proved to be a significant weakness at times. Post Feb 03, 2018 … by Alkie » Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:47 pm, Post Adolf in late 1943 requests that Stug IV's should be issued to panzer units 'if possible', and they were. Elevation of the gun? They were very similar in that they were low to the ground and had armoured casement instead of a turret. Hosted by Art. This gives it a higher specific power (hp/tonne), allowing it to accelerate faster. by Patrick » Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:38 pm, Post As a result, production was significantly reduced. The new vehicle proved to be an effective tank destroyer. The M10 was built on the M4 chassis, and carried a 3-inch gun similar to the M4's 76mm. I never build Panther. Some source apply designation Sd.Kfz.163 to Stug IV. against gen. lee tanks and standard sherman its … StuG (Sturm Geschutz III) was a infantry support gun while Jagdpanzer IV was meant for tank killing (or tank hunting ) then there is no such waste of time in producing both ATST. Using the tanks high speed and maneuverability, you should generally stay away from enemies and damage them from afar with your weak armor and good … I happen to think he was one of most capable generals and military theorists of the 20th Century. By 1944, 9,346 of these self-propelled guns destroyed about 20,000 enemy … He doesnt fit its role: feels like a medium tank: - high mibilty - moderate AI (3 MGs) … A more powerful gun, the 75 mm Pak 40, was being developed, but it didn't fit in the turret of the Panzer III, Germany's primary medium tank at the time. against easy 8s i tend to destroy them in two to three hits in the stug, with 3-4 for the panzer IV with apcr. 167), was a German assault gun variant of the Panzer IV used in the latter part of the Second World War. Both StuG models were given an exclusively tank destroyerrole in German formations and tactical planning in the last two years of the war, greatly augmenting the capability of the dwindling tank force available to the German ar… He doesnt fit its role: In November 1943, Alkett, GmbH, a major StuG III manufacturer, was bombed as part of the RAF campaign against Berlin, and Alkett's StuG production declined from 255 StuG IIIs in October 1943, to just 24 vehicles in December. The Sturmhaubitze 42 Ausf. After the specifications arrived at the OKH, an order was passed to Daimler-Benz AG and Krupp for delivering a prototype by June 15, 1936. First, assault guns came into their own for a number of reasons. [2] Its mission was to destroy prepared defensive works, pill boxes, machine gun emplacements and tanks. I can't think of any Stug Abteilungen that had them. It was not intended to be used to exploit breakthroughs and drive into the enemy rear areas, as the Panzertruppen units were intended to do. by Roger Griffiths » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:54 pm, Post The StuG was used primarily within the Sturmartillerie, a branch of the artillery in the Wehrmacht. At least it did according the charts I've seen. Unlike other, heavier Wehrmacht armored vehicles, the StuG III was built in large numbers, over 10,000 though the best information I have says only 1,600 were deployed on the Western Front. A light, low-profile tank destroyer designed according to General Heinz Guderian's specifications. by Roger Griffiths » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:02 am, Post The StuG III was based on a Panzer III chassis (hence the III), and it didn’t have a rotating turret. The point I was making about the chassis of the Stug III and Hertzer (translation: "Troublemaker") is that the tank turrents that previously resided on these chassis could not support a capable anti-tank gun, or thick sloped armor. German StuG in Finland. They could not carry a 75mm L48 gun (turret ring too small) as tanks but could as assualt guns, along with heavier (and sloped) frontal armor. by kramer » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:17 pm, Post by Alkie » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:38 am, Post Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV.The more common of the two, the StuG III, was built on the chassis of the proven Panzer III.The StuG III was initially designated "StuG… Stug is faster but not as flexible in close corners. In 1942 the StuK40 L43 or 48 became available. A machine gun and shield were added to later versions. The high velocity guns were not that important in the initial role. [5] They were used in this fashion as German losses of all types of armored vehicles now exceeded production. Yes, the Stug IV was built as a result of the bombing of the Alkett factory. Dave AAA. A number of captured StuGs were refurbished in the Soviet Union and given to Syria, along with some Panzer IVs, where they were used briefly against Israel. It was found, however, that the turretless StuGs had enough room in the crew compartment to handle the 75 mm Pak 40, and this modification was made. Meanwhile, heavier armed tank destroyers were developed, such as the Jagdpanzer IV and the Jagdpanther, which combined the low silhouette of the StuG with the heavier armament of the Panther and Tiger II tanks, respectively. It was a little higher with the JadgPanther. AP (solid) projectile … The Hetzer was produced from April 1944 to May 1945, with a total of 2,584 vehicles manufactured. G) is a rank II German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV. AP projectile 85mm AA gun-from 1500m. The StuG III was initially designated "StuG" but with the creation of the StuG IV (based on the Panzer IV chassis) it was re-designated the "StuG III" to distinguish the two. A captured Syrian Panzer IV and StuG III are on display at the Armor Museum in Israel. German StuG in Finland. Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV. I used to own one, and from my experience it's better than the Panzer 3, but not in the same league as the Panther. The StuG was also used in Finland post-war where one unit even mixed StuGs and British turreted 'Charioteer' tank destroyers. These new vehicles, designated StuH 42 (Sturmhaubitze 42, Sd.Kfz 142/2), were designed to provide infantry support with the increased number of StuG III Ausf. Message forum of the Feldgrau.com research community, Post Some StuG IIIs were modified with a co-axial machine gun as well. It resulted in devastating the factory's ability to produce large numbers of Stugs for several months. 1500 of this model was produced, and it was called the Stug III/IV. against gen. lee tanks and standard sherman its about same. A 12-cylinder Maybach HL 120 TRM engine generating 300 hp drove the StuG III. The StuG III Ausf. The chassis, for starters. Was'nt it Guderian who requested more StuGs production over tanks? The more common of the two, the StuG III, was built on the chassis of the proven Panzer III. Redbaron1908 Member Posts: 2023 Joined: 31 Dec 2002, 18:52 Location: Texas. Also remember that the sight is automatically set to 400 yards or so, so you might want to adjust it. Majority was issued in companies to infantry divisions with few exceptions. Following the defeat of the German Empire in World War I, military commanders from the Reichswehr began to consider how mobile armored artillery units could provide support to advancing infantry units. In 1942 and 1943 the StuG was one of the most effective tracked fighting vehicles fielded by the belligerents, in terms of enemy vehicles destroyed. [3] The main armament, which had a limited lateral traverse, was mounted directly in a casemate-style hull. Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, a significant problem developed when it was discovered that the main armament on the Panzer II and III tanks were inadequate to deal with the newer Soviet T-34 and KV-1 tanks. I'd say if you are new to mediums get the Panzer 4. Adolf said 'They're all against you so I can only go with them' Democracy in action. In December of 1943, Stug IV was introduced, it was essentially a slightly modified Stug III superstructure (such as extended driver's compartment) mounted on Panzer IV chassis. Initially a secondary capability, employment as an anti-tank weapon became more important as the war progressed. StuG III Ausf.G from the Abt. by kramer » Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:49 am, Post At first the Stug 3 had a short barreled 75mm gun, but it was upgraded into a long barreled 75 as a countermeasure to the Russian t34. October 1941 near Kalinin. You have to get the equipment to the Front.. Kramer, Guderian tried to get hold of Stug production for PD's and PGD's in April 1943 on being appointed Generalinspekteur der Panzertruppen. Between 1942 … The Wikipedia article says they didn't work well as StuG substitutes but doesn't say why. The lack of an internal light machine gun in early models left the StuG vulnerable to close-range infantry attack. This restarted the Sturmgeschütz IV project, which had earlier been considered and rejected. In November 1943, British aircraft bombed Alkett, a large manufacturer of StuG IIIs. The first vehicles were produced by December 1943. When they came up against very large numbers of T-34's in long range engagements near the Aksai River, they suffered very very high casualties. There is some controversy about Guderian and how truthful his memoirs are. Regarding the Panzer 4. Hertzers and Stug III's could not be made as tanks capable of surviving on the Eastern Front. F was designed with a 10.5 cm (4.1 in) true howitzer instead of the 7.5 cm StuK 40 L/43 cannon. The Sturmgeschütz IV (StuG IV) (Sd.Kfz. After seeing how bad the Stuh performs at 3.3 i started to think hard to find any reason for having Stug 3G at BR 4.3 - both have the same chasis/armor, and both are easy to destroy on all but medium-long range (lots of weakspots) - Germany has no low tier front line heavy tank, just a bunch of glass mediums, the Stug 3G was the only German low tier tank i had … It was introduced in Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory". [1] Manstein theorized the vehicle would not be used as one uses a tank, but rather as an infantry support vehicle to destroy fortified objectives through direct fire. It had a Maybach HL 120 engine that was capable of propelling it at speeds of up to 40 km/h. F was designed with a 105 mm (4.1 in) true howitzer instead of the 7.5 cm StuK 40 L/43 cannon. 14K 3,302 5. AP (solid) projectile of English 57mm tank gun -from 600m. Another StuG III, in the possession of The Wheatcroft Collection, is awaiting restoration. by twsecrest » Fri May 18, 2018 1:57 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. by Alkie » Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:14 pm, Post by SvenW » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:04 am, Post The omission of a regular tank turret made for simpler and more cost-effective production, enabling greater numbers to be built. Discussions on all aspects of the USSR, from the Russian Civil War till the end of the Great Patriotic War and the war against Japan. The Bovington Tank Museum in Dorset has one painted in Finnish markings. In February 1943, at the suggestion of the Ministry of Armament, the Krupp company began trials of a new vehicle with the superstructure of the updated StuG III and the new suspension of the Pz.Kpfw. This tended to pull the vehicle towards an AT role. Initially, they were intended as armored self-propelled guns providing close fire support to the infantry to destroy bunkers, pillboxes and other entrenched positions. Not only was its main gun powerful enough to knock out the new Soviet tanks, but the Panzer III chassis on which it was based was highly mobile and reliable, and the increased armor plating combined with its low silhouette made it a difficult vehicle to destroy. Kramer, as far as the silhouette, you are right, it was very low with the Stug III, Stug IV (Guderian's Duck) and the Hertzer. The Blitzkrieg Doctrinemust be active before it can be called into the field. This special assault gun is doctrine-specific and can only be called into the field using a special ability, not produced. The StuG IV was a way to keep the StuG in production after the main assembly plant for it was bombed. And it was mechanically reliable. To make up for the large deficit in StuG III production, StuG IV production received full support. Then the whole thing goes pear shaped. The crew consisted of 4 people. It was based upon the StuG IIIAusf. Still, the StuG III was an effective armored fighting vehicle long after the Panzer III had been retired as a main battle tank. by Roger Griffiths » Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:29 am, Post Only about 1,300 StuH 42s were produced and were based on the StuG III F/8 and G models. borys68. Colonel Erich von Manstein recommended the concept of infantry Begleitbatterien (escort batteries) to General Beck, chief of the general staff in 1935. For further reading you might look into Steven Zaloga's books particularly M10 Tank Destroyer vs StuG III Assault Gun. The StuG was an artillery vehicle for infantry support while JgPz were meant for AT units. Stug shoots almost double as fast, has the same range and its penetration is enough to penetrate almost every tank in front armor (except IS2 and ISU). I built the Academy kit of the Stug IV recently, and I'm curious. did start going into PD's and PGD's and the practice spread as time went on. 14K 3,302 5. Over 10,000 StuGs were eventually produced.[4]. I can't pick many holes in what you guys are writing but consider this. F chassis with its most notable difference being the addition of an L/28 howitzer for its main gun. The StuG III was based on a Panzer III chassis (hence the III), and it didn’t have a rotating turret. It is a Its maximum speed was 25 mph, and the power reserve was about 96 miles. F/8 and Ausf. 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